Taylor Swift doesn’t do anything by accident — which is why her two-hour record-breaking appearance on Jason and Travis Kelce’s New Heights podcast has Swifties in full-blown decoding mode. Between the sourdough chatter,

1.3 million people tuned into the first hour of Taylor Swift’s podcast appearance. That’s nearly twice the number of those who initially tuned into Trump’s appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast. Trump, who had a nine-month head start, has more overall listeners, but Swift’s appearance is catching up quickly.

Detroit Lions quarterback Jared Goff reacted to Taylor Swift mentioning him during her appearance on New Heights, the podcast hosted by Travis and Jason Kelce.